in the football coach ron we always talked to fight through it. the breaking point as we talk about earlier when you come to the realization of who do we leave this responsibility, and this responsibility to? at some point we have to take that responsibility from the coaches and even the leagues because many leagues i work with our own, not governed by u.s. a football at pop warner. scott can't come down until every coach in the united states of america that this is the way you need to do it so what we try to do with the league and i will share this as an example that this is what you are fighting at the grass-roots level, number one, i played eight -- we went to a league and approached the league and did you know what we want to do? we played at the highest levels so there is a model standard already out there. be nfl and the nfl p a set the standard for you've coaches. the problem is they don't embrace changes because it is all about winning. when it is good, nobody remembers years from now. what matters is the effect of the game. what we tried